Comments on: User Story Modelling https://www.romanpichler.com/blog/user-story-modelling/ Expert Training & Consulting in Agile Product Management Mon, 30 Sep 2024 16:36:20 +0000 hourly 1 https://wordpress.org/?v=6.7.1 By: Roman Pichler https://www.romanpichler.com/blog/user-story-modelling/#comment-2755 Fri, 28 Oct 2011 16:12:13 +0000 http://www.romanpichler.com/?p=2073#comment-2755 In reply to Michael Ball-Marian.

Thank you Michael.

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By: Michael Ball-Marian https://www.romanpichler.com/blog/user-story-modelling/#comment-2754 Fri, 28 Oct 2011 15:54:51 +0000 http://www.romanpichler.com/?p=2073#comment-2754 Great post Roman. I really appreciate your blog, and it is an area of Agile that doesn’t get enough attention.

Much of the literature on Scrum and Agile is silent in regard to planning and understanding activity patterns (or use cases, etc.) Similarly, it is relatively silent about understanding and planning coherent user experience. Both of these exist “outside of” individual user stories, and consequently are often ignored by many fledgling agile teams. As a user-centered development shop doing agile, I know we struggled with this (and sometime still do).

Your blog and book have been useful to our teams in finding agile, lightweight ways to do this planning without falling back on “big up front” design. Thanks!

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By: Arran Hartgroves https://www.romanpichler.com/blog/user-story-modelling/#comment-2752 Thu, 07 Jul 2011 12:18:55 +0000 http://www.romanpichler.com/?p=2073#comment-2752 Thanks for the guidance, much appreciated.

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By: Roman Pichler https://www.romanpichler.com/blog/user-story-modelling/#comment-2751 Fri, 24 Jun 2011 08:06:28 +0000 http://www.romanpichler.com/?p=2073#comment-2751 Hi Arran, Thanks for the feedback.

I view a story as valuable if it is necessary to turn the product vision into a successful product.

I find that the features on the product vision board often end up as epics on the product backlog. I would suggest to create models only for those epics whose relationship with user roles or other epics needs to be explored further.

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By: Arran Hartgroves https://www.romanpichler.com/blog/user-story-modelling/#comment-2750 Thu, 23 Jun 2011 06:42:34 +0000 http://www.romanpichler.com/?p=2073#comment-2750 One more question!

Do you see a tie up between features on the Vision board and this epic model? Could a model be created for each feature?

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By: Arran Hartgroves https://www.romanpichler.com/blog/user-story-modelling/#comment-2749 Wed, 22 Jun 2011 18:55:24 +0000 http://www.romanpichler.com/?p=2073#comment-2749 Great post. I’ve been using use case diagrams with stories for a while just to organise and provide context.

Never considered the activity diagram approach but essentially are we not working with use cases, flows etc… (Nothing wrong with that btw, I’m just saying they seem to have converged – Use Cases are commonly perceived as non-agile). In the example above, you have a story “Enter user name and password”, I’ve questioned whether this in it’s own right has value (as part of INVEST) to the customer?

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By: Mike Cohn https://www.romanpichler.com/blog/user-story-modelling/#comment-2748 Wed, 22 Jun 2011 13:39:11 +0000 http://www.romanpichler.com/?p=2073#comment-2748 Hi Roman–
This is a nice approach that will be helpful on epics where we need a visualization to see how the parts fit together. Thanks for sharing it.
Mike

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